tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post2385882507899668766..comments2024-01-04T09:04:42.121+00:00Comments on James Strachan's Blog: .Net, web browsers and Android should be certified Java Kernel platformsJames Strachanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12591119339035350067noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post-89613314807960658472009-12-25T15:16:32.008+00:002009-12-25T15:16:32.008+00:00Android is awesome mobile, cool. I like it ;)Android is awesome <a href="http://nustaffsite.gunadarma.ac.id/blog/hanum" rel="nofollow">mobile</a>, cool. I like it ;)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920004026855581355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post-31771079109325315302007-11-29T22:08:00.000+00:002007-11-29T22:08:00.000+00:00FWIW, Jeroen explained a while ago on his blog why...FWIW, Jeroen explained a while ago on his blog why he does not think that certifying IKVM makes much sense.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13534659157970956316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post-36865458411756745732007-11-29T13:58:00.000+00:002007-11-29T13:58:00.000+00:00Your definition of how open .Net is might depend o...Your definition of how open .Net is might depend on how much you trust MS to do the right thing. <BR/><BR/>Be that as it may - my point wasn't really meant to be about how open .Net is.<BR/><BR/>I'm really trying to argue how large we could make the Java ecosystem if we split up J2SE and included .Net, Android and web browers as really being a real part of the Java Kernel Platform - which we could certify too to avoid possible embrace and extend strategies.James Strachanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12591119339035350067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post-23643993554929067602007-11-29T13:45:00.000+00:002007-11-29T13:45:00.000+00:00You start with the premise that .Net is not an ope...You start with the premise that .Net is not an open platform. This is not true. .Net is an open platform steered by MS. Java is an older open platform steered by Sun with a wider market. The question is, will the .Net market be just as wide in a decade?<BR/><BR/>IKVM does sound cool. I hadn't heard about that.mccoynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09895019423053612239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post-69974819871228474952007-11-29T13:15:00.000+00:002007-11-29T13:15:00.000+00:00So today you can develop a GWT application with ve...So today you can develop a GWT application with very rich widgets that look amazing and reuses the current web browser technologies (cough, CSS, cough) to make kick ass rich user interfaces that make Swing look pretty 90's technology.<BR/><BR/>Today GWT deploys so that the client side is *just* a standard web browser; which is great. <BR/><BR/>It would be pretty trivial to embed WebKit / Gecko inside the JVM process to make a Swing like rich application without needing a browser (as thats what GWT kinda does when you run & debug your GWT application in a single JVM process for both the client and the server side).<BR/><BR/>i.e. why don't we use a single techology and API to build both rich web applications - and rich thick clients - while using the best techologies available under the hood. <BR/><BR/>e.g. the Java bean development model coupled with CSS and the modern browser's incredible rendering engines (which make it super easy to make great looking rich applications).James Strachanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12591119339035350067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637417304187784899.post-80366806876557146882007-11-29T12:57:00.000+00:002007-11-29T12:57:00.000+00:00GWT to replace Swing, SWT? How long term are you ...GWT to replace Swing, SWT? How long term are you talking here?<BR/><BR/>Long enough for all the major web browsers to implement modern UI toolkits inside, rather than be forced to do HTML rendering? That will be a LONG time.<BR/><BR/>Good or bad, fat clients are going to be around a lot longer than that.coffeedrinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03935482104632333396noreply@blogger.com